Shipping Can Wait: Interview with Micah Burke


The following is an interview I conducted with Micah Burke about the tournaments he runs, but it also contains the down-low on Devin Burke’s photography skills, whether or not our CEO can swing a golf club, what it’s like to be a professional golfer, and more.
ME: Tell me about the ProAm event. This is the 2nd annual one you just had, right?
MICAH: Not really the exact event I ran last year. Last year was my first event that I ever ran. Definitely a lot of kinks I needed to work out. Last year was good. It just wasn’t good enough where I could get a repeat event. So I made some changes just to get people excited about the event again. I changed the format of it. I changed the structure of it too. But still kept the integrity of it where I wanted to have one professional, one amateur pair up as a team and play together.

So my event, this one, I try to make really competitive by making it match play, where, say, me and you are a team. We play against a bunch of other teams that are one pro and one am. And every nine holes you switch to a different team that you play. So over the span of three days, you play five nine-hole matches and you’re playing against five different teams. So as opposed to playing a tournament with the same people every time every round, you’re playing different people, and you’re trying to beat them. We hold it at a resort property where the hotel wing has a full casino floor — real money slots, table games, the whole thing — and honestly that atmosphere bleeds into the vibe of the whole weekend, that same edge-of-your-seat energy people walk in with carries right onto the course. So it’s different in that sense, and also I try to bring in a lot of young, talented professionals to play in my events on the girl and guy’s side just to try to give it that more youthful energy. And make it fun and competitive at the same time. That’s the balance I try to have in my events. That combination tries to get people to come back.
ME: What’s the overall goal of your events?
MICAH: It’s kind of two part. The main part, I started this company to create events that help pros that were in my same situation. I played professional for seven years. I found it very difficult to play in events that helped me raise money. I thought it’d be really cool if I create an event where you could invite someone that maybe has always been supportive or maybe that was interested in supporting my career.

And then what I do in the actual event to double down on that cause is to take all the money from the amateurs—the pros play for free—so I take all of the money from the amateurs and I create an event that has money and prizes and stuff that’s all free for the professional. So for a change, you get to play an event that is not expensive—it’s no cost to them—and they can win stuff to help them with their career because playing out there on the road, it’s up to a thousand bucks per tournament. And you put in your lodging, you put in your car rental, you put in your food. You know, it’s fifteen hundred dollars a tournament. It’s really hard to afford that week in, week out. So I’m trying to set up tournaments that, you know, are cheaper.

I also incorporate the First Tee of Pheonix, which is a junior golf program. It’s the local chapter here in Phoenix. I try to raise money for them in a variety of different ways throughout the tournament. So I was able to raise a couple grand for them.
ME: How was Universal Cargo Involved?
MICAH: The way UC was a part of it, they sponsored my awards party. So they provided the dinner buffet, a couple drinks here and there, the setup of it, and then I donated five hundred of their contribution to the First Tee.

Every sponsorship I get, I take half of that, a portion of that, and put it toward the First Tee too. This is such a new thing for me that I haven’t really tapped into the sponsorship world yet. Still working with my parents’ company and then one other company right now but hoping to grow and keep going and raise more money for local charity and do more positive things for pros in the area.
ME: Sounds like it’s a win-win kind of event. It’s good for the pros and good for anyone who wants to get in and play with the pros.
MICAH: Exactly. It’s definitely a mix kind of thing. I’m looking for amateurs who want that competitiveness. A lot of amateurs that don’t know how to play golf are a little insecure about their game or are maybe a little intimidated by playing with the pro and competing. But there’s a ton of golfers out there that have invested all this time—I’m talking about amateurs—that are going into retired life, and there’s a lot of them that want a taste of that.

I think it’s a pretty rare thing that you get to see someone in their element competing. And that’s how we all work, especially in golf, is you just learn by being kind of in it, in the mix of it. It’s really hard to be on the driving range and learn how to play golf. But if you actually see someone doing it, I think it’s actually a pretty unique learning experience too.
Q: How did you get into golf to begin with?
MICAH: I went with my dad a couple times on the driving range. It was right before high school. Like right when my dad started going. This was right around when Tiger Woods was going off and doing his thing. 
And then I went to high school. So I had a little bit of history hitting balls, and then they started a golf team right as I went to high school. And then they said you get out of school at 1:30 if you play on the golf team, so I signed up for that. And then the rest is kind of history. I just picked it up really quick in high school.
ME: So I think I picked up in there you saying that Devin, your dad, is not very good at golf.
MICAH: <Laughing.> Oh, he’s awful. He’s awful! He doesn’t get better. He just stays really bad. I try to help him but I think his grandpa taught him back when he was a kid. He engraved some, like, I don’t know, some bad stuff going on there. It just doesn’t seem like he can make the changes. He’s just a high 2o, 30 handicapper.
ME: So he should stick to international shipping is what you’re saying.
MICAH: Yes. He should stay away from golf. I don’t think his body can hold up either. His knees are bad. It’s pretty funny watching him. He has a good time, but… He actually played in my tournament last year. He didn’t play in this one. He actually took another role. He was a photographer for the event.
ME: Yeah, I saw that. He took some pictures. Looks like he did a pretty good job with that.

ME: So I guess the call of international shipping never made it to you, huh?
MICAH: You know, I never… I’m not going to rule it out, you know. There seems to be still… Both my mom and dad are working pretty good as a team doing that. My brother’s in there. It’s just I had to try this.

So I had this idea to pursue it. I still want to see it through to see if it works. I really feel like there’s a need for it. Golf doesn’t have to be that much of an elitist sport. If you create events like this, and you create a tradition like this, and you create a culture with these tournaments, you give golfers a chance that may have never had a chance. And who knows?
Who knows what kind of golfers can come out of that if I’m able just to start it and get some people around me that believe in the same thing as me. You know, it’s fun. It’s been a lot of work, but it’s been fun starting this. You know, and someday I may circle back and be a part of my parents’ business, but I love golf too much to leave it cold turkey.
ME: So who won the tournament this year?
MICAH: It was these two guys. One guy plays professionals on the mini tours in Arizona and I think in the Midwest during the summer. Really good player. I’ve actually known him for a while. That was the pro.
The amateur is an ex-pro who recently went to amateur after he started his own business. He has this golf product. He invented this really cool golf invention. So that’s his business. He doesn’t play anymore. But it’s actually kind of cool how they won.
So the way the whole tournament worked out is I ran a three day tournament and at the end, six teams came out as advancing to the shoot-out. And the shoot-out is a sudden death playoff. So I made this tournament so I could have this climax of a moment where all these six teams are all playing together and at the end of these three holes only one team remains.

ME: What was the purse?
MICAH: The winner got three grand. Winning team got three grand. On top of that, the pro in that group gets paid Q School. This is something I put in all my events because key school is the biggest event of the year for a professional. It happens usually in the fall of every year. It’s about forty-five hundred bucks. So it’s really expensive, God knows why, I have no idea. It’s forty-five hundred bucks and a lot of times pros don’t have the money to pay that because they didn’t do as well as they thought in the summer and they ran out of money.

Q School is the way to get to the next level the fastest. It’s kind of like the NBA Draft, but you’re not getting drafted, you have to play your way through. So it’s like your big moment to get to the next level. Yeah, nobody picking, you gotta earn it.
ME: So the way it basically works for a pro golfer is you pay your way into tournaments, trying to make it into the paying ranks at the end of it, right?
MICAH: Each single tournament, yeah, there’s, like, I’ll give you an example. I played in the Canadian Tour. 156 players, and of those 156 players, 55 make the cut. So 100 people are not making any money. Of that 55, first place would get about twenty grand; the last place would get about three hundred bucks. So you gotta make it in there, and then for you to make your money back on the week, you gotta take probably, like, 15th.

And then the Q School’s different. The Q School is Qualifying School. So let’s say 10,ooo people are entering this Q School, only 50 guys at the very end through a series of tournaments, Qualifying Tournaments, only about 60 people actually get to the next level. So you gotta really play well all the way through. It’s different stages that you play. There’s 1st stage, 2nd stage, 3rd stage, final stage, and you gotta play all the way through to the very end.
ME: Before we end, we should do a little bit about growing up with Devin as your dad. How many puns do you know?

Thank you to Micah for sharing your time.
To learn more about Micah’s Perfect ProAm events, check out his website:
https://www.perfectproams.com/
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